WSJ: Fix to Boeing 737 Max 8 planes delayed in part by government shutdown

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JUST IN: US officials say the recent government shutdown played a part in the delay of Boeing's software update for its 737 Max aircraft, the Wall Street Journal reports

Boeing announced Monday it had been working on a software fix for the 737 Max aircraft over"the past several months and in the aftermath" of Lion Air Flight 610 that went down in late October over the Java Sea off Indonesia, killing 189 passengers. The process was underway before the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 crash over the weekend, which killed 157 people and also involved a 737 Max. Both flights crashed minutes into their journeys.

The FAA was one of the agencies affected by the government shutdown, which began on December 22 and spanned 35 days. The agency had to recall thousands of its aviation inspectors from furlough over safety concerns.The FAA determined that the delay in the update was acceptable because its experts and Boeing deemed there was no imminent safety threat, an unnamed source briefed on the discussions told the Journal. Boeing declined to comment to CNN about the Wall Street Journal's reporting.

 

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The finger pointing continues

Mrbaiden_

What a big lie. ProfitsDidit

ModeratorDefcon I call BS. Slow processs are not an excuse for bad code and missed requirements. In fact, that delay should have helped them put out a better end product.

Does the Boeing private company or government company?I have no idea about Boeing organisation but what you have mentioned the whole employees is related to The government rather than Boeing itself.If though Why they didn’t let the airlines companies know about that update softw

Talk about not taking responsibility!

ModeratorDefcon Yeah.....Right! I’m buying that. CNN + (WSJ)+[DS] = FAKE NEWS. Or, stated differently, everything [BAD] is POTUS Trump’s fault.

ModeratorDefcon Fake News.

They should have then alerted their clients not to fly the planes if the update of the software was critical😣

Nd innocent souls hv to suffer for dis Oh wht a world we lv in

And there you have it. It was Donald 's fault all along. Horrible. Because of the shut down..

Trump has something to do with the issue at hand and over 300 people dead.

Another reason that Trump is unfit

phat_alfred Okay can we take a second to talk about this?!

Is there anything that CNN won’t blame directly or indirectly on Donald Trump

Acceptance of guilt. Please avoid this explosive situation

BWI_Airport

So you knew the software needed updating and still flew the planes hmm yea thays definitely the shutdowns fault

I think they lost it😂

Is it an engineering problem or a software issue? 🤪

Wow! So it’s Donald Trumps fault? CNN has no shame, just a hack leftist cheering squad.

Did realDonaldTrump order the groundings of the Max8 in retaliation for this report?

So they’re saying... (fill in your political take here).

charlesadler Which official? JaredKushner or IvankaTrump ?

I hope pretty soon we won’t have any cnn after getting hit with that $275,000,000 lawsuit today, this is gonna be good!

Incredible

The government shut down impacted a private industry’s software updates? Seems unlikely. Boeing is a powerful company.

So the crash in Africa was Trump’s fault. I was trying to work out just how CNN can blame Trump for a poorly maintained plane on the other side of the world. This is why CNN is a tabloid

Except for this crash and a dozen issues over the last year, this airplane has been blameless.

This story brought to you YESTERDAY by maddow

Not exactly 'just in' maddow had this last night!

Now every time I hear Boeing 737 mentioned, I think of John Williams music for Jaws. Just plodding along in life until disaster strikes.

Oh BS now they’re gonna blame Trump for plane crashes,,, but Boeing is not a Govt agency. Dont put them in the air if there not ready !

What a load of crap. Do you idiots really believe that the FAA & every US carrier would fail to perform a software update critical to the safe flying of hundreds of planes & risk thousands of people because of the shutdown? They ground planes ALL THE TIME for less. FakeNews

CNN has found a way to link a tragic plane crash across the world to the Trump administration, cuz orange man bad.

And the President meets with Boeing CEO to say everything is fine it’s just those crazy Dems!

kmugova Fire fighting at its worst

Can you also look at Russian involvement. Sabotage of Boeing by Trump and Putin, definitely smoking gun we are all waiting for.

realDonaldTrump that is your responsibility Mr.

CivMilAir Yeah! Why don't they tell it to the families and friends of the flyethiopian ET302

Why would the government have any impact on Boeing software programmers?

cnn The world leader in fake news.

Oh please!!! What else!!! You just can’t help yourselves

Ha ha ha ha ha. Love it. Shut down may havd caused crash! Ok, all the more reason the lying democrats should have forgone their holidays and gone to discuss with realDonaldTrump who sat in the WhiteHouse all over Christmas, apart from visiting troops in M/East. DNC fault!!

Hello

Oh, good grief. Everything is Trump's fault.

And why isn't trump getting involved in this issue? He may not be at fault but he certainly can do something about the situation

RAeSTimR See Ma no Hands : the blame game, a fixa - monomania of American Politics

Is anyone saying this is a link in the accident chain?

CivMilAir This is rediculous statement and story. To put the blame on shutdown is complete joke

OMG! So now you are blaming it on Trump!!! You are just beyond despicable.

Boeing is a Private Company Not a Government Company!!! Shutdowns or Not. This is Boeing problem! Hey CNN This must be Trump problem ? Idiots Fake News

This is the silliest excuse i EVER read !

kmugova All becoz of Old McDonald's obsession with a wall

Oh please the first 737 accident was before government shut down and that was in 2018 . Stop blaming trump on everything .

What. Since when does Boeing work for Trump?

What a joke is CNN.

This means realDonaldTrump, who claimed responsibility for the shutdown, is directly responsible for the deaths of those on the doomed aircraft. If he didn’t shut down the government, the passengers might still be alive!!

Now you’re just reaching for straws . . . FormOverFunction

Software is Boeing's issue and should have been fixed prior to delivering planes. They knew about the auto pilot issue. Also, according to pilots, the manual was worthless. This is not a FAA issue but Boeing's issue.

If even it was the case, it was ethical duty to whistleblow expressing shutdown , you should be still guilty for not keeping public safety paramount. Either way you look , guilty.

So Trump killed those poor people earlier this week

Lol all the nitwits blaming Trump but when the boy jihadist Obama got hundreds of cops killed in the US crickets . Or the cast of million Obama got killed in Syria and the middle East more crickets

Looking more like pilot error, but I’m sure CNN won’t retract this article once the FACTS come out!

Aii😂😂 enos_enosbwibo

😂😂 ya ok. Jesus you would have to be completely stupid to believe this

micsedinam

Bad excuse.

Lol what a propaganda😹

More shit to blame on realDonaldTrump

Why is this more important than the Tucker Carlson naughty words story?

Woah..

DontheCon is to blame?

Sue Trump then?

charlesadler LMFAO.

CROCK OF POOP FROM FAKE NEWS!

Didn’t take long to play politics with this.

Aha since the Democrat sewer rats were responsible for the shutdown they are responsible for the Ethiopian crash. That's according to Cortez logic.

I’m here for the let’s see what dumorats can blame Trump for today comments....... and I’m having a great time 👍

This is full of 💩. fakenewsCNN

We don't care, just ground it!

So is Boeing basically blaming realDonaldTrump for the two plane crashes that killed 346 people? I mean if Gov't shut down is responsible for lack of update and Donald Trump is responsible for shutdown it seems as if they are.

Ooookkaayy 👌🙄

If an update was crucial for safety, Boeing held the responsibility to ground or not.

You guys are just incorrigible

U.S. officials say...🤣

Wow ,it turns out it’s Trump to blame for the plane crash, Poor Trump! Now America is the only country which still fly Boeing 737 MAX in it’s sky, tough and impressive!

That’s a stretch

Was it on the one that recently crashed in another country?

I knew it, Trump gets the credit for the Boeing Max 8 planes crashing. It was predictable. Trump is now sabotaging international air travel.

Lol - now that my friends is passing the buck. Last I checked SW provisioning wasn’t on the list of services hindered by shut down. What a total douche bag attempt to divert blame.

HouseDemocrats OversightDems SpeakerPelosi maddow TYT

The planes didn't fly until the software was in. Morons.

Can the families of the crash victims sue the Trump administration?

maddow TYT

So, the airplane crash and the passenger deaths are Drumpf's fault? Blood on his hands!

Sorry but I have to call bullshit on this story. It's a privately owned company. Had absolutely nothing to do with the government. But nice try.

Sorry guys one of the planes had the software update and the pilot was trained with it. How do you explain that?

Typical CNN...

Why didn't they recall the plane months ago one day they say it was safe and the update was to make it safer the next day, it was never safe and they needed to fix it. the fact we dont know all the names of the american victims makes me sick..

realDonaldTrump responsible for the Ethiopian air crash.BAD.

Not an excuse

How did these planes get approved in the first place?

NO LATER THAN APRIL? Ok so to be on the safe side as a frequent flyer wont be on that model until june 2019 AmericanAir Delta FAANews Boeing 737maxkiller

MarianneThamm what rubbish, whats the other crash blamed on. Delays on building the wall.

MarkDice Video please Mark! TDS alert...

Huh. Didnt know Boeing and Ethiopia Airways were US Federal Agencies. Oh well, thats it, Trump will finally be impeached probably by next week!

Are you kidding me, it was a software update!!! Wow! Yeah, use that excuse explaining to family members why their family members died! It was a government funding issue. Something that important should not rely on the speed of government!

Man, kids blame Trump for everything

😂😂😂 yeah i see where you are going with this.... Forget it man.. Just because your plains are dangerous dont mean you can blame Trump

Huh, Boeing isn't part of the government. During the shutdown Boeing was still up and running. Granted if update is needed FAA approval I understand that, but the shutdown was weeks ago. Put the blame where it needs to go. To Boeing and not the Trump Administration

Mscheeeew

Bullsh*t. Boeing is a private company. Shutdown didn’t affect them.

Is this a hit piece against POTUS? Article is incomplete. Does EASA have to approve software updates or do they accept the FAA’s approval as acceptable? How long after April will the update take to get into the 350 737 Max 8 fleet, & what about the 737 Max 9’s?

Thank you Mr. President Trump!

Hahaha, blame Trump because your kid pooped his pamps.

I didn't think it was possible, but now you are trying to blame airplane crashes on PDT! Holy Moly you never cease to amaze!

Get government out of the process.

Huge PR coverup and obfuscation by Boeing and FAA over the mechanical flaws and software updates!

Bullshit. How long does it take to release a software patch that could save lives? Just another example of profitsoverpeople.

CivMilAir

Trumpet will blame Einstein.

. JUST IN: GOP Rep: Lisa Page Confirms Obama DOJ told FBI Not to Charge Clinton. WHERES YOUR COVERAGE?!?! Fake News.

So, private airlines purchasing from private aircraft producers are affected by a government shutdown? OooooKkkk

CivMilAir That doesn’t make any sense - so the gov was shutdown but company like BoeingAirplanes still made money and worked and while that was going on - who owned that shutdown again

F’n BS. Just a way for Boeing to shift the blame and liability.

Every action has a reaction. Political decisions can and do affect us all. Remember that next time you vote or decide not to.

CivMilAir realDonaldTrump YOU DID THIS!!! YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!

Oh shut up

CivMilAir

CNN reaching further than MJ did in the championship game against the MonStars to try and pin this one on Trump 😅

Meh This is a stretch Up to the private company on whether or not to put the planes into service, not the government.

. so 'mr' Trump has a lot more to answer for , at St Peter's doorstep.

Thx, Donald😡🇺🇸

Hahahah omg. Here you go again... so pathetic

This isn't the blood of deaths in P. Rico.Or in Charlottesville.Or Otto Warmbier.Or Khashoggi.Or climate deaths in Calif wild fires.Or floods. It's the reckless,illegal,damaging,humiliating,abuse of power shutdown that Trump enacted. It was the slowdown in software research.

Blood on the hands of Shummer!

Fake News

Oh please

Just in: Boeing major donor and friend of tRump 🙄

charlesadler Ya right. Crisp smell of desperation from the demtard Bureau of Public Enlightenment & Propaganda...😂😂

So if they knew it needed a up date why was it in the air. So you blame a shut down. No planes stopped flying.

FAKE NEWS!

Lol. No.

Trumps fault. Hahahahahahhahaha right.

I guess CNN loves lawsuit because they keep pushing narratives that a lies lies lies

I wonder if any of the people piling on the government because of the click bait headline actually read the article? 'The FAA determined that the delay in the update was acceptable because its experts and Boeing deemed there was no imminent safety threat'

FakeNewsCNN is now blaming POTUS for Boeing f*ckup

We lost extremely talented Pilot among others well educated, caring passengers because of Boeing failure to update the damn software. I am mad as hell.

Can we charge trump with murder.

I hope Nancy Pelosi and her gang are proud. She didn't stop the wall. She didn't even slow its construction. But she did get innocent people killed. Whoo hoo, DemocRats, yay!!! Boeing

KadariaAhmed Like play like play dem go talk say na Trump cause the crash smh

If a business can't do a software update without the government there is too much government.

“Trump wiped us off the map too!”

Wow

Trump has blood on his hands

Must be Trump's fault

Excuses excuses. I call horseshit.

Here we go again... 'I'll be the reason for your pain and you can put the blame on me You can put the blame on me You can put the blame on me'

This is what Liberal news media like CNN, will start latching onto now, instead of putting Boeing on their feet so that they could do the right thing and avoid a repeat of these unfortunate crashes.

MarianneThamm How? When will the contractor / supplier (Boeing) take responsibility?

That would mean... it's all SenSchumer SpeakerPelosi 's fault. They're the ones... that caused the shutdown.

FakeNews How is that Law Suit going for you CNN

Having a hard time linking a US govt shutdown impacting a foreign airline company. What am I missing? Did a plane crash in the US?

KadariaAhmed CNN must find a way to link it to realDonaldTrump . Hate on another level.

Wait..... does airlines depend on government to implement fixes? WTF are you saying?

WTG Trump

Get ready for another shutdown.

Trump killed 157 people? Nothing new, his supporters won't even blink until the world is destroyed.

Liberal sheep will believe anything cnn tells them to think

So Trumps fault that Boeing turned loose a deathtrap?

Unforgivable

Always an excuse.

Bullshit!!!!

To all you crybabies, planes go down when the government is open. Is Boeing Americanair telling America that they knew the planes were faulty and used the democrats dnc shutdown as an excuse not to fix it and put lives at risk? Complete B/S and excuses. factsmatter GOP

MAGA

Trump is a MURDERER.

Terrible spin CNN King of Fake News...Russian Collusion was better spinning than this one. So Fake and Sad.

Look at what Democrats protecting illegal aliens has done to America.

I said this before you guys reported. I probably should have been a journalist because I see thru all BS😂🤣😂 Not to mention all the food being recalled DUE TO THE GOVERMENT SHUTDOWN AS WEL

Comedy News Network at it's best...lol

some Americans wont even fly using Boeing unless there is an executive from Boeing on the Plane too.. too many CEOs have no brains and they had the tax cuts.. they could have used the tax cuts to fix their own assets and buy better ones.. but they did buy backs.. CEOs are weak

Hahaha this is out of my thinking okay so people were flying for free they had no money to upgrade the software or the software was on the shutdown to 😇

Thanks trump

How ridiculous, blaming Trump, classic CNN. What a joke.

Wow it took Boeing thinking to come up with this? The first crash was over 5 mths ago and the govt wasn't shutdown.

You mean the democrats government shutdown?

So, two planes crashed because Trump shutdown the gov't to build a wall. Is impeachment still too good for him?

Bartissimus so 'mr' has a lot more to answer for , at St Peter's doorstep

To all you crybabies, planes go down when the government is open. Is Boing Boing737 telling america that they knew the planes were faulty and used the democrats dnc shutdown as an excuse not to fix it and put lives at risk? Complete B/S and excuses. factsmatter GOP

So can we put 45 in jail for murder now?

😂 😂 😂 Crazy fake news. Period

So it's Trump's fault since he caused the shutdown

Sickening, sickening propaganda!!! So it's Trumps fault? Or are we blaming democrats too since they were equally involved in the shutdown? Either way, if it needed a software upgrade that was life saving, the plane should not have been flying

CDNs wont allow the plane to be used .. and the union of the pilots claim they believe the plane is safe.. Boeing is not prepared to put an executive on every plane being flown until further notice.. the Board is scared of dying on a plane trip using their ow plane// send them

Lol even when facing the impossible, the media will blame Trump

So Boeing is blaming Trump and his shutdown? If true, a good business move? File lawsuits against Trump and the US Government? They have more money than Boeing.

In short, the responsibility is always of the others ...

'The TRUMP Effect', again ... 'The Mark of The Beast' on steroids! Nothing known to man is as precious to TRUMP as $$ & a nation that doesn't care that BIG-SHOTs in Washington DC NEVER EVER have to pay for their crimes. And we TOLERATE it ...

Wow...so the blood of all those poor people is on their hands!

Dems: “When in doubt-Blame Trump or Russians!”

Families should start suing Trump for his mistakes

Thats such crap

did the other countries knew about this software update and why it’s necessary? did they knew that it would be late because of the shutdown? Boing better prays.

This story will not go away soon. Things are about to get very intense.

If the planes have no problems, why is Boeing rushing to replace software?

How come you are not reporting this story .?!!!!!

Hope chuck and Nancy are happy with their government shutdown.

Ground all of them. Wtf.

Thanks, Trump

I wonder if all those poor people who lost loved ones can now sue the government or Boeing - if they KNEW there was an update that COULD prevent possible catastrophic events .....

Sounds like additional liability to me! FAANews BoeingAirplanes

Just banned in Canada 🇨🇦

realDonaldTrump Send your thank-you cards to the Democrats in the House. They chose playing politics over USA citizens safety. It will happen again if they don't smarten up.

You mean Donalds Shutdaown played a role!!

Explains why Trump tweeted that airplanes are too complicated. Blood on his hands again.

Sooo another tragedy attributed to our bafoon of a president’s pissing match

Boeing is to blame and no one else.

No words

fakenewscnn always spins any news back to Trump pathetic

Wow.. SHUT THE FRONT DOOR

So, it was Trump’s fault. Knew it

Not surprised.

That would be the TrumpShutdown.

Impeach Trump.

Boeing and FAA said it did not cause delay?

Good one

Ahhh yeah now I see. Orange man bad?

Trump finally did it

Made up story.

Sounds like excuses to me

Thankyou POTUS Trump...

WoW 😮

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